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"You don't have to fight the instructor right away." LMAO!
love it
Good for you bro, you really could of fuk him up but bravo…
Dat wet willy was nasty
Honestly a lot of high level wrestlers can walk into a bjj class and smash the instructor they don't train takedowns and they can't sweep a good wrestler try a triangle on someone like me it is suicide he is clearly beating up a kid
Its going to depend a lot on weight. BJJ guys are use to grappling someone much bigger than them. Wrestlers typically only wrestle people their size. Also experience. Is the wrestler an Olympic medalist? Is the BJJ guy Rickson Gracie? Too many variables honestly. If the BJJ guy is a legit black belt in GRACIE jiu-jitsu and the other guy is about the same size, he had better be one of the best wrestlers you can find. Even then he should not be able to tap the BJJ guy, only take him down and hold him. Maybe the BJJ guy is a 150 pound purple belt and the wrestler is Brock Lesnar. See a problem here?
Yeah man you must be really awesome. Should just give you a black belt right now.
Although yes still cool he at least beat the kid but that wasn't exactly Alexander Karelin putting down the challenge
and it wasn't buchecha or rodolfo viera accepting the challenge either. Every sport has its top dogs but ill go ahead and say that i doubt even a really high level wrestler like burroughs or dake could just walk into a gym with no training and smash someone like buchecha at BJJ just like buchecha wouldn't even be able to touch burroughs if it was a wrestling match.
Carlos Florez that is the thing under tournament bjj rules a wrestler can easily win with takedowns he may get booed for holding on the top and disengaging but he can take him down and let him up all day. Just because it is under bjj rules doesn't mean they have to play the same game. BJJ is not a different sport than wrestling that is what people don't get it is all grappling there are lots of submissions in both. If someone is highly trained at either than can beat someone less trained at the other same with samba and judo and greco it is all the same sport. But yes wrestlers have the advantage in under a point system with takedowns as most bjj gyms simply do not focus enough on them. I do see your point but this kid really was a retard.
Carlos Florez that is the thing under tournament bjj rules a wrestler can easily win with takedowns he may get booed for holding on the top and disengaging but he can take him down and let him up all day. Just because it is under bjj rules doesn't mean they have to play the same game. BJJ is not a different sport than wrestling that is what people don't get it is all grappling there are lots of submissions in both. If someone is highly trained at either than can beat someone less trained at the other same with samba and judo and greco it is all the same sport. But yes wrestlers have the advantage in under a point system with takedowns as most bjj gyms simply do not focus enough on them. I do see your point but this kid really was a retard.
Carlos Florez And yes i saw Kenny Monday get choked out in under a minute with a guillotine I know it can happen but this is 2014 it shouldn't. It is just funny when they think a blue belt bjj guy is going to beat up a wrestler with 20 years exp it doesn't work that way. Also BJJ love that size doesn't matter which is kind of true against an untrained opponent as it is a small mans game but it is super important with a trained wrestler.
Brian Hankins now with that statement i agree 100%
A Brazilian jiu-jitsu guy will always destroy wrestling.
Chris setzer just ignorant they are not different sports my buddy won pan am with like 6 months of training. I got a fancy Yamasaki challenge tourney win with a month.
Hey Brian how many wrestlers have won the ADCC submission championship? Let me answer that for you, no pure wrestlers have ever won, on the other hand something like 56 of the total 60 champions were BJJ guys. Wrestlers are great at takedowns and maintaining top position but they cant do shit off their back and have a much more limited arsenal of submissions. Of course a beast wrestler will beat a novice BJJ player. At at the top end there are some great wrestlers that can hang with the best (though most of them practice BJJ as well). But you only have to look at what Galvao did to Sonnen to see they were worlds appart in SUBMISSION wresling ability. The reality is that to be a complete MMA fighter you have to be good at wrestling and BJJ. BUT if you had to pick just one go for BJJ everytime! Just look at what Royce did to Dan Severn.
Ah yes the Severn fight honestly I still don't get it I think it was staged it's like Severn never considered he could just powerbomb a 170lb man. It is an obvious counter and you want to naturally do it not sure why he didn't. Yes I am not saying a wrestler is just going to win adcc I am saying that a collegiate wrestler can beat a middle aged instructor.
The main point is no style is superior it comes down to the individual there are absolutely subs in wrestling it is all the same sport.
Bernardo let's not forget same tournament Barnett won with a simply high school wrestling neck crank
http://www.mmamania.com/2014/8/9/5987277/josh-barnett-wears-black-diaper-submits-dean-lister-via-neck-crank-metamoris-4
And wrestlers don't have to fight from their backs
Nice job 🙂
Assuming a wrestler can take a BJJ guy down just because he is the wrestler, is ignorant. Assuming you cant be sweeped because you are a wrestler is ignorant as well. I can say with confidence no wrestler can take me down, because im a bull rider. Just try it youll be sorry, and also stuck standing, WITH ABSOLUTLEY NO GAME PLAN to implement, while I can still submit you with BJJ and bullriding skills. Wrestling is a part of BJJ, BJJ is not a part of wrestling, because it is less dynamic by design.
Class act for the instructor… Great way to represent BJJ! If i am ever around Decatur i will come train
What a dumbass hahaha
true, but Josh is also a bjj black belt and had a fair bit of size on Dean. but i completely agree, no single style is the best. if i could go back in time i would have dedicated as much time to wrestling as i have done to bjj (would also have done more kick boxing and judo). Every stile has great tools
correction, wrestlers CANT fight from their backs
what happens if the bjj guy just pulls guard, pretty? Come on Brian if it was that easy you would see wrestlers winning BJJ world championships all the time. I remember dan severn stuck in little ol Royce's guard for like 15 mins and then getting tapped out with a triangle (which he has admitted he had never seen before). Now i will concede that if Dan had just a few months of bjj training, and learned some simple defences he would have smashed Royce as he was much stronger and could toss royce around at will. This whole BJJ vs wrestling argument is silly cause they are different sports with different scoring systems and goals. They are both great at what they are and practitioners from each discipline could learn much from the other. I will even say that as far as physical conditioning and training discipline goes wrestling is miles ahead of BJJ, partly because its a much older and established sport than BJJ, partly because its an olympic sport and partly because of the great high school and collegiate wrestling programs. I have nearly 20 years of BJJ and I reckon my game would improve much more if I spent the next few years doing wrestling than BJJ. Perhaps wrestling is different, and for the sport of wrestling BJJ does not have much to offer, but for wrestlers wanting to do BJJ or submission grappling then BJJ is hugely useful.
It always comes down to this style vs style non sense. I like the video because the guy got what he deserved not because he's some sort of representative of wrestling and he got tuned up. Rules make the styles… each art is forged by the rule set and perfect for that rule set… So what's the comparison? People use MMA or street fighting or all these other random scenarios as some sort of bedrock proving ground but the fact is these situations are governed by different rule sets also…