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Internet users often download or copy-paste photos from the web to their websites and put them to a wide range of uses, including commercial applications. What these people do is commonly referred to as stealing. Theft of photos is quite rampant on the web, and the excuses people give when they steal photos from the web are quite lame. Stealing is a criminal act and those who engage in such activities can be prosecuted and jailed, or fined heftily.
Top 6 Excuses Jiu-Jitsu guys Use When They Share Photos of a photographer ( And why we should ask permission or buy )
1. I Gave Credit to the Owner, so it’s Mutually Beneficial
There is a common misconception that if you write the name of the photographer or the source of the photo below the image you can use any photo you find online. Unless you called the owner of the photo ask for permission to use the photo, you would be infringing on the rights of the owner. Copyright law gives photographers a monopoly of economic exploitation of the photos they take. If you would like to use a photo that you did not take, be sure to get in touch with the owner first to get permission before using it.
2. Photo had no Copyright Logo
Some people who steal photos online claim that the pictures did not have any copyright logo to indicate that it is copyright-protected. That is a lame excuse because copyrights are there by default. As soon as a photo is taken, whether by a professional or amateur photographer, copyright law becomes applicable. Unless stated otherwise, Internet users should assume that every photo they come across is copyright protected.
3. I Found the Photo on the Internet so it Must be Free
Just because a photo is presented to the public through the Internet does not mean that it is freely available to the public. In fact, the photographer will only lose his or her rights over the photo at least 50 years after their death. However, this may vary from one country to another.
4. I Thought it was Free to Use Because it was on Google
Major search engines like Google have algorithms that produce search results for photos. Google Images, for instance, only helps users to find the photos they are looking for, but the company does not have rights to any of those photos.
5. Millions of People do it so it Must be okay
This excuse is bogus. Just because many people are doing something wrong, that cannot negate the fact that the law is being broken.
If you like a photo on the web, all you need to do is identify the owner and seek permission instead of giving any of these excuses people use when they steal photos from the web.
6. Im in the photo
Im in the photo getting choked out so please take it down or ill use it
A comment from Jiu-Jitsu Page Facebook from Mike Pesh Poeschl
What a photographer, musician, artist, writer creates is THEIRS (get over it). And when you find it on google, facebook, tumblr, or any other site on the internet and think you can use it, be prepared when that person contacts you to either ask for it (you might have to pay) or take it down, or be sued.
That is just the way it works. Now, any photographer that takes their craft seriously, is going to be the person that has to protect their work… and SHOULD NEVER feel bad for it, just like protecting their family.
If you want to care about this sport, you need to support EVERY aspect of it… not just the parts you care about
Let’s all support our Photographer i know we are paying $100 for the tournament, but $2 of photo wouldn’t hurt you, well not that much. I know Jiu-jitsu can be very expensive and adding photo to our budget may not be ideal for you, but i know we can all help each other.
And for the photographers sometimes it’s just hard to give credit to your photos, specially when everybody is sharing it and we just don’t know who really took it. reason why we are using your photos is because you take a damn good photos.
Comment from the 2014 Photographer of the year bjjpix William Burkhardt
I don’t mind people sharing my pictures
Because small websites don’t Have The money to buy photos anyways and
It’s always good to have blogs and websites to promote jiu jitsu
Photo Credit: http://www.bjjpix.com
I don't mind people sharing either. In fact I post as many BJJ photos to the web as anyone so that's proof of that. We're not all grinches here so don't get it twisted. The main thing is there's a fine line of sharing "properly" and "copyright infringement" – which is a crime. The more education about that, the better. To support thievery is kind of selfish in my opinion. You tend to think different about this stuff when you have life responsibilities like children and mortgage payments and bills, and most BJJ photographers I know have families. We can't all live that "BJJ Lifestyle." Some of us are living that "damn, I gotta pay my mortgage payment and save for my kid's college lifestyle."
I think the bottom line, which we can all agree on, is that we all want to promote BJJ, which is why a lot of us take the photos for damn near nothing versus shooting weddings and other things like that. But how can we continue to make that choice when what we do isn't sustainable? Above and beyond actual law, that's why a lot of photogs care so much about this.
I wish to address William's comment… there are other things that a website CAN give to an artist that are not money. It IS good for blogs and sites to promote BJJ but not at the cost of others. The site/page/blog owners can reach out to a photographer VERY easily and work something out… even ASKING is sometimes enough. But in the end, for a site to just swipe it and think it is ok, it uncool and disrespectful to the artist.
I for one am willing to barter for my work, but if I find that you are stealing it, things get serious on my end.
William, the fact is, you get SOMETHING that you are ok getting with you let people take your photos for their own use. Eventually someone will take advantage of you and you will feel the same as other photographers. To me, like Mike Calimbas, I am as much about helping the sport grow through great images as I am feeling valued. I value my time and effort, the best way for someone to show me that they value it is to ASK. In the end, it is about a mutual exchange of value.
Lastly, to reiterate:
"If you want to care about this sport, you need to support EVERY aspect of it… not just the parts you care about."
So be mature, work with the photographer and you will find that you might get what you want without pissing people off.
As a former competitor and now photographer, I generally now refuse to take any pics (other than of my son and our team) at competitions. Much like surf photography, too many instances of people wanting "free" photo's. ( you know, all the countless hours I have spent honing my craft, – the gear I bought, experimented with, the computer programs I have bought-) ya, it's not "free" by any standard. I couldn't count the times event staff as seen my pics of my son or friends and then asked me at another tournament "hey, can you shoot this or that match? we'll give you credit on the website"- oh thanks, really– but no……..
I'd be more inclined to slip you a 20 and ask for copies?