Rener and Ryron Gracie Debate The Helicopter Armbar and Helicopter Triangle


With even a short spell of training with the Gracie brothers, you will find that you can verify their tendencies. Ryron, being the older of the two, grew up being influenced by his uncles using his little brother Rener as an outlet for his dominance. The armbar was and is his weapon of choice.

Rener has always been fascinated with the triangle concept, the perfect geometric roundabout of efficiency, the cornerstone shape of the very emblem that bears his family crest. His protege Brian Ortega often goes by the nickname “T-city,” or Triangle City, a nickname bestowed on him legend has it by Rener himself.

The debate rages, if we were to perform an overhead sweep, which corresponding submission is preferable between the triangle and the armbar?

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Dr. Arman Fathi is a staff contributor for the Jiu-Jitsu Times. He is a licensed Doctor of Chiropractic in the State of California and a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Black Belt under the Redzovic family in Chicago. He is currently living in Southern California training under Professor Eddie Bravo at 10th Planet HQ and Professors Ryron & Rener Gracie at Gracie University HQ. He is the head instructor and owner/operator of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Laguna Hills. Learn more and claim your free 10-day trial at www.gracielagunahills.com. Alavanca fight gear www.Alavanca.com Quikflip Apparel Visit www.quikflipapparel.com and enter code FLIP10 for 10% off any order. Arman can be found on Instagram @Dr_Arman_Hammer.

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